PegCityCam Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 21 hours ago, Shway said: How do I say this nicely. Shut the %#^* up! 😅 It never makes sense to move our best attacker away from the final third. Until guys show that they are better than Davies it’ll make sense. Plus everyone knows that Davies isn’t really a good defender. Here's another way to say it: johnyb, costarg and Kent 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 12 hours ago, PegCityCam said: Here's another way to say it: there was a time not too long ago when many said it was crazy to even compare Pulisic and Davies. One poster even berated Davies for his poor skill on the ball during his early tenure with VW. Just need to be patient with young players and if they are in the right environment they can reach their ceiling in short order. Obviously Davies is an exceptional talent Xavier., PegCityCam and costarg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally McCoist Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) Wonder what's this about. He works for OneSoccer now so I'm assuming he has at least *some* connections. EDIT: It's probably regarding Luca Koleosho. Edited May 24, 2022 by Ally McCoist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Man, I pray we call him up to the NT for this window. No reason not to. Let’s get it done and keep it moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottsy3 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Ally McCoist said: Wonder what's this about. He works for OneSoccer now so I'm assuming he has at least *some* connections. EDIT: It's probably regarding Luca Koleosho. I know that with the recent hype and rumours, this is likely Koleosho but part of me hopes that it’s actually another American-Canadian dual nat: Chituru Odunze. still only 19 years old and has been called to the senior USMNT already. He’s really close with a bunch of the guys on FC Edmonton, so I figure he’s pretty strongly connected to the country still. After Slonina’s commitment to the USA, it seems like a good fit. Corazon, Approve My Account Pls, johnyb and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 On 5/13/2022 at 7:50 PM, Shway said: The amount of guys called up for the 3 games . Over or under 26. I say under. Called it....CSA likes to save when it can, and that means no exceeding to many call ups. ......Or maybe it's 26 with Campagna being the off/on roster player. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted May 26, 2022 Share Posted May 26, 2022 (edited) Canadians in MLS - Weeks 11, 12 & 13 Hopefully a bit of a distraction to the disappointing news about the Canada game vs Iran being cancelled. Montreal was able to extend their unbeaten run in MLS to 8 games before losing their last two. Vancouver went 1-1-1 over the three games while Toronto FC only played twice, earning a draw while losing the other. Of note, Breza did earn a shutout in their 2-0 victory, while Alistair Johnston was able to score his first goal of the season. In Vancouver, there was a debut for teenage keeper Max Anchor. Cavallini scored two goals and provided an assist over the 3 game span. Gutierrez also provided his first assist of the season. In Toronto, on his return, Osorio scored off a Peruzza rebound. Meanwhile Akinola seems to be rolling into form and scored his first of the season. Canadian Player Minutes Montreal - 4,780 minutes - 5,950 minutes including Goalkeeping Toronto - 6,197 minutes Vancouver - 3,166 minutes - 4,046 minutes including Goalkeeping US MLS Teams - 2,817 minutes - 4,887 minutes including Goalkeeping Stats provided by MLS.com. Player Team POS GP GS MP G A P% T INT Duel % Kamal Miller Montreal CB 13 13 1148 1 2 83.6% 5 12 60.5% Alistair Johnston Montreal RB 13 13 1078 1 4 84.4% 14 13 52.8% Raheem Edwards Los Angeles LW 12 12 1041 0 5 80.9% 18 15 50.3% Luca Petrasso Toronto RB 12 12 1032 0 3 74.0% 5 11 45.3% Mark Anthony Kaye Colorado CM 13 12 1005 3 0 80.9% 17 15 51.6% Joel Waterman Montreal CB 11 11 977 1 1 86.6% 7 8 61.5% Russell Teibert Vancouver CM 12 11 917 0 0 80.8% 12 18 38.7% Jonathan Osorio Toronto CM 10 9 744 3 4 88.0% 9 10 55.5% Jayden Nelson Toronto RW 12 10 712 1 0 80.4% 11 5 42.7% Lukas MacNaughton Toronto CB 10 8 696 0 0 80.7% 4 13 53.9% Lucas Cavallini Vancouver ST 10 7 695 3 2 74.3% 8 3 53.2% Kosi Thompson Toronto CM 11 8 691 1 2 76.1% 10 12 54.3% Ismael Kone Montreal CM 10 8 651 1 2 83.3% 3 5 55.6% Cristian Gutierrez Vancouver LB 9 4 482 0 1 85.7% 7 5 70.6% Jacob Shaffelburg Toronto LW 6 6 466 0 2 69.4% 7 7 42.3% Tyler Pasher Houston ST 11 5 462 2 1 80.0% 2 0 43.6% Deandre Kerr Toronto ST 8 4 458 1 0 76.9% 6 5 55.7% Kadin Chung Toronto CM 8 5 451 0 1 82.5% 10 8 60.4% Ryan Raposo Vancouver CM 11 5 435 2 0 72.8% 3 7 52.3% Mathieu Choiniere Montreal CM 6 4 321 0 0 81.5% 6 1 48.6% Michael Baldisimo Vancouver CM 8 3 263 0 0 80.8% 6 1 40.0% Marcus Godinho Vancouver RB 6 3 219 0 0 77.6% 1 1 76.5% Jordan Peruzza Toronto ST 10 1 201 0 0 64.3% 0 0 47.1% Jahkeele Marshall-Rutty Toronto CM 4 3 197 0 0 87.9% 3 4 67.9% Samuel Piette Montreal CM 6 1 196 0 0 93.2% 6 1 41.7% Ayo Akinola Toronto ST 5 1 181 1 0 72.2% 2 1 59.1% Tesho Akindele Orlando ST 8 1 176 0 0 71.9% 2 2 45.7% Zorhan Bassong Montreal LB 8 1 163 0 0 84.1% 0 2 31.3% Ralph Priso-Mbongue Toronto CM 5 3 158 0 0 82.0% 6 1 56.0% Noble Okello Toronto CM 4 1 156 0 0 75.9% 3 2 79.0% Zach Brault-Guillard Montreal RB 7 0 136 2 1 87.1% 1 2 25.0% Doneil Henry Los Angeles FC CB 5 2 133 0 0 88.4% 0 1 45.5% Tosaint Ricketts Vancouver ST 6 1 120 2 0 63.0% 0 0 50.0% Rida Zouhir Montreal CM 4 1 110 0 0 77.6% 0 0 42.9% Ali Ahmed Vancouver CM 1 0 33 0 0 88.9% 0 1 50.0% Steffen Yeates Toronto CM 2 0 31 0 0 76.9% 1 0 50.0% Kobe Franklin Toronto RB 1 0 13 0 0 100.0% 0 0 50.0% Themi Antonoglou Toronto CM 1 0 10 0 0 100.0% 0 0 100.0% Emiliano Brienza Vancouver ST 1 0 2 0 0 83.3% 0 0 0.0% Jean-Aniel Assi Montreal ST Nathan-Dylan Saliba Montreal CM Keesean Ferdinand Montreal CB Karifa Yao Montreal CB Tomas Giraldo Montreal CM Sean Rea Montreal CM Reshaun Wilkes Toronto ST Adam Pearlman Toronto DF Luke Singh Toronto (to FC Edmonton) CB Vasco Fry Vancouver ST Matteo Campagna Vancouver CM Simon Colyn Vancouver (to Jong PSV) CM Kamron Habibullah Vancouver (to Pacific FC) CM Derek Cornelious Vancouver (to Panetolikos) CB Damiano Pecile Vancouver (to Venezia) CM Player Team POS GP GS MP S S % P% GA GAA Wins Maxime Crepeau Los Angeles GK 12 12 1080 21 63.6% 78.0% 12 1 8 Dayne St Clair Minnesota GK 11 11 990 45 79.0% 53.5% 12 1.09 5 Sebastian Breza Montreal (from Bologna) GK 13 13 1170 30 56.6% 77.3% 23 1.77 6 Thomas Hasal Vancouver GK 9 9 790 27 61.4% 54.3% 17 1.94 2 Max Anachor Vancouver GK 1 1 90 4 66.7 58.3% 2 2 0 James Pantemis Montreal GK Greg Ranjitsingh Toronto GK Isaac Boehmer Vancouver GK Jonathan Sirois Montreal GK Luka Gavran Toronto GK Edited May 26, 2022 by Corazon dyslexic nam, Ruffian, Ivan and 10 others 10 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoccMan Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) I’m sorry but I have to vent , when I see the US play two quality opponents and we are stuck playing Panama , this pre World Cup campaign has been completely a joke so far . The guy that thought playing Iran was a good idea should be fired on the spot, moreover, anyone at the CSA that thought it was a good idea to play Iran should also go. Moreover, why didn’t they have a second game lined up after they scheduled the Iran game , the US has. Instead because of the CSA incompetency we are left playing Panama . Instead of building up momentum to our first World Cup since 1986 the general public is talking about the shambles that was organizing a game against Iran . This is what you get when you don’t have proper professionals working at your governing body. Sorry but this has been a complete joke ever since we qualified . Edited June 3, 2022 by SoccMan Stryker911, Shway and PegCityCam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, SoccMan said: I’m sorry but I have to vent , when I see the US play two quality opponents and we are stuck playing Panama , this pre World Cup campaign has been completely a joke so far . The guy that thought playing Iran was a good idea should be fired on the spot, moreover, anyone at the CSA that thought it was a good idea to play Iran should also go. Moreover, why didn’t they have a second game lined up after they scheduled the Iran game , the US has. Instead because of the CSA incompetency we are left playing Panama . Instead of building up momentum to our first World Cup since 1986 the general public is talking about the shambles that was organizing a game against Iran . This is what you get when you don’t have proper professionals working at your governing body. Sorry but this has been a complete joke ever since we qualified . It's more than likely Herdman had a big hand in selecting Iran GasPed, Unnamed Trialist, Shway and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) Unfortunately it's been all downhill since our historic run of games in the Octo and qualification for Qatar. Lack of CSA/media coverage re U20 camp was an easy way of keeping momentum and the program in the news..and then Iran! Edited June 3, 2022 by Kadenge Ivan, Xavier., Shway and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, SoccMan said: I’m sorry but I have to vent , when I see the US play two quality opponents and we are stuck playing Panama , this pre World Cup campaign has been completely a joke so far . The guy that thought playing Iran was a good idea should be fired on the spot, moreover, anyone at the CSA that thought it was a good idea to play Iran should also go. Moreover, why didn’t they have a second game lined up after they scheduled the Iran game , the US has. Instead because of the CSA incompetency we are left playing Panama . Instead of building up momentum to our first World Cup since 1986 the general public is talking about the shambles that was organizing a game against Iran . This is what you get when you don’t have proper professionals working at your governing body. Sorry but this has been a complete joke ever since we qualified . I don't blame the CSA, or whoever had the idea at the CSA, for not anticipating the political shit storm, but I do blame them fully for not having a second friendly already planed. I want to know the reasoning to play a single friendly. The USA managed to get Morocco and Uruguay, and I know we aren't the USA, but couldn't we have gotten Iran and Colombia, or Chile, or hell even Bolivia? The plan from the get-go to only have a single friendly is what irks me the most from all of this. Credit to them for moving mountains to secure Panama at the final hour, but it was a blunder of their own making to begin with. It's like they played the role of both fire fighter and arsonist. PegCityCam, Free kick, Fresh Prince of MTL and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, narduch said: It's more than likely Herdman had a big hand in selecting Iran I would be very surprised by that. JH seems to be a very intelligent and detail oriented person. I assume, if he had a hand in planning he would have considered all angles including the resulting perception of the team. He's talked a lot about being proud to be Canadian and wear the maple leaf, he's talked a lot about getting the country to believe in them and he's talked a lot about pride and honour in the team and what they do. Scheduling a game against Iran seems to contradict so much of what he's said it doesn't make sense to me. The CSA leadership on the other hand, and specifically NB, seem to be incapable of not shooting themselves in the foot. This is exactly what you'd expect them to do, team popularity on a meteoric rise? Schedule a game against Iran and have a bunch of Canadians question your decision making. Who knows though, it's all speculation. Sal333 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said: I would be very surprised by that. JH seems to be a very intelligent and detail oriented person. I assume, if he had a hand in planning he would have considered all angles including the resulting perception of the team. He's talked a lot about being proud to be Canadian and wear the maple leaf, he's talked a lot about getting the country to believe in them and he's talked a lot about pride and honour in the team and what they do. Scheduling a game against Iran seems to contradict so much of what he's said it doesn't make sense to me. The CSA leadership on the other hand, and specifically NB, seem to be incapable of not shooting themselves in the foot. This is exactly what you'd expect them to do, team popularity on a meteoric rise? Schedule a game against Iran and have a bunch of Canadians question your decision making. Who knows though, it's all speculation. He can't have it both ways. He can't be a detail oriented guy that plans everything meticulously but then not have a hand in putting together the Iran friendly. shortofbrillant, Obinna, dyslexic nam and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 minute ago, narduch said: He can't have it both ways. He can't be a detail oriented guy that plans everything meticulously but then not have a hand in putting together the Iran friendly. Unless there's a disconnect between him and the CSA leadership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 minute ago, BuzzAndSting said: Unless there's a disconnect between him and the CSA leadership. I guess people like him so much they can't fathom giving him any criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 minute ago, narduch said: I guess people like him so much they can't fathom giving him any criticism. That's an unfair link based on nothing. You made an assumption about him and I'm just posing an alternative viewpoint. We know the players didn't want to play against Iran so it's possible that JH didn't want to either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Just now, BuzzAndSting said: That's an unfair link based on nothing. You made an assumption about him and I'm just posing an alternative viewpoint. We know the players didn't want to play against Iran so it's possible that JH didn't want to either. I think its pretty fair. We let the guy control every last detail. Except choosing Iran? Hard to believe. The Real Marc and Obinna 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 21 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said: I would be very surprised by that. JH seems to be a very intelligent and detail oriented person. I assume, if he had a hand in planning he would have considered all angles including the resulting perception of the team. He's talked a lot about being proud to be Canadian and wear the maple leaf, he's talked a lot about getting the country to believe in them and he's talked a lot about pride and honour in the team and what they do. Scheduling a game against Iran seems to contradict so much of what he's said it doesn't make sense to me. The CSA leadership on the other hand, and specifically NB, seem to be incapable of not shooting themselves in the foot. This is exactly what you'd expect them to do, team popularity on a meteoric rise? Schedule a game against Iran and have a bunch of Canadians question your decision making. Who knows though, it's all speculation. The truth is often somewhere in the middle. JH can be a very intelligent and detailed oriented person, having a hand in planning and considering all angles including the resulting perception of the team. The CSA can be an organization that lived up to their reputation by scheduling a game against Iran and having a bunch of Canadians question the decision. Both of these things can be absolutely true. We know that JH is a risk taker. There's no reward without risk in this world. Risk takers gauge risk on perceived probability of outcome, so maybe JH considered the probability of this backfiring to be low, relative to the expected reward. As for the CSA, perhaps they likewise saw the possible reward as being worth the risk. Although all we can do is speculate, as you said, we can be fairly certain the decision was jointly made by Herdman and the Canadian Soccer Association. I find it hard to believe that JH was against the decision and simply went along to get along. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 I thought Wheeler already essentially confirmed that Herdman wanted to play Iran while the US played Morocco as an intended quid pro quo between Berhalter and Herdman? Even if he hadn’t I am also of the view that it would be almost inconceivable that he would have not been behind it to some, if not a large extent. Also the players only became against it after they got wind of potential protests happening in the stands, there is no suggestion that they were not in favour of it to begin with, in fact it was the opposite with Cavallini defending the choice. Kent, GasPed, johnyb and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said: That's an unfair link based on nothing. You made an assumption about him and I'm just posing an alternative viewpoint. We know the players didn't want to play against Iran so it's possible that JH didn't want to either. At risk of opening the whole can of worms again, I want to remind you (and anyone else reading) the players reportedly never wanted to play the game after the media backlash got out of hand. Rightly so that our players wouldn't want to get caught up in negative optics, or worse. Prior to things getting out of hand, Cavallini went on record and basically said that Trudeau can have his own opinions, but he just wants to bring soccer to the people and prepare for the world cup. narduch, GasPed, Gian-Luca and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 I mean, 50,000 people bought tickets to the game and presumably thought the game would go ahead. It's not inconceivable that Herdman thought the game was a realistic possibility and wanted to play it before the backlash came. 1 hour ago, Gian-Luca said: I thought Wheeler already essentially confirmed that Herdman wanted to play Iran while the US played Morocco as an intended quid pro quo between Berhalter and Herdman? Wheeler didn't confirm this. Oliver Platt started it by pointing out the friendlies and the World Cup groups and hypothesized that maybe they were planning on exchanging notes. Wheeler liked that theory and kept mentioning it, but never confirmed that he heard it from a source, just always saying it was a possibility that it was the case. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, narduch said: It's more than likely Herdman had a big hand in selecting Iran 10 hours ago, BuzzAndSting said: I would be very surprised by that. JH seems to be a very intelligent and detail oriented person. I assume, if he had a hand in planning he would have considered all angles including the resulting perception of the team. I posted a podcast link several weeks back. It was an interview Bontis gave to a sportsnet radio drive home show. A day or two after qualifying for the WC. In that interview that Bontis said that Herdman would have final say who we play friendlies against. Edit: here it is. Interview with Bontis starts at 40:15 Answer about who we play in friendlies is at 46:01 https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/writers-bloc/id1483242860?i=1000555520804 Edited June 4, 2022 by Free kick narduch, Jedi Ram, BuzzAndSting and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkomar Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 That same radio show (when Andi Petrillo was guest hosting) pointed out that the Iran game needed the approval of the stadium brass (i.e. BC government) as well as the federal government. They got the green check marks from both. There is more than one group responsible for scheduling that game, including politicos who should have known better than the CSA. Sal333, Kent, johnyb and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, rkomar said: That same radio show (when Andi Petrillo was guest hosting) pointed out that the Iran game needed the approval of the stadium brass (i.e. BC government) as well as the federal government. They got the green check marks from both. There is more than one group responsible for scheduling that game, including politicos who should have known better than the CSA. At first many members here disagreed with that observation. I'll bet not too many will speak up now. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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