Ozzie_the_parrot Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 ...One particular part of the conversation stuck with me. “What people forget,” my drinking buddy on the night said, “is that we can sell these guys. “That’s where the real money will be, not in selling tickets.” hew added. As stated, this isn’t new territory. In fact, it’s how 95% of the football world operates.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) Didn't have time when I posted that to expand a bit, but found that a bizarre anecdote. Let's say for the sake of argument they were expecting around 4000 paid at an average of $25 for 15 home games at the time. That would be $1.5 million in revenues through the gate. You would need about eight Lukas McNaughton type transfers per club per season for transfer fees to start to be more significant. If his "drinking buddy" was serious about that they were clearly thinking in terms of much higher fees which means they were massively overestimating the quality of talent that was going to be available to them. Edited January 30, 2022 by Ozzie_the_parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 4 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Didn't have time when I posted that to expand a bit, but found that a bizarre anecdote. Let's say for the sake of argument they were expecting around 4000 paid at an average of $25 for 15 home games at the time. That would be $1.5 million in revenues through the gate. You would need about eight Lukas McNaughton type transfers per club per season for transfer fees to start to be more significant. If his "drinking buddy" was serious about that they were clearly thinking in terms of much higher fees which means they were massively overestimating the quality of talent that was going to be available to them. I just took it as the buddy jumping from the particular to the general. The world tendency is declining gate and rising transfers and tv rights. Still, 10% of your yearly budget covered by a transfer isn't bad. I personally never thought transfers would be significant for CPL, the model has to still be to cover core player wages with gate. What was really outrageous was not playing Voyageurs Cup on Vancouver Island vs TFC, Covid notwithstanding, as a single good gate would rival that McNaughton transfer. Bbeto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ansem Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 20 minutes ago, narduch said: Now I'm wondering if Sportsnet have bought some of the CanPL games... This would be massive!!!!!!!!!!!! Ruffian, Trois Reds, narduch and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trois Reds Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 28 minutes ago, Ansem said: Now I'm wondering if Sportsnet have bought some of the CanPL games... This would be massive!!!!!!!!!!!! Looking at the tweet with both the Sportsnet and CPL logos next to each other, you might be right. Having the OneSoccer team interview Kyle Bekker and talk about the league on the Sunday Sportsnet pre-show makes me think there might be something to it as well. Senorpopps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SpursFlu Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I was actually thinking watching the last Canada game that Sportsnet must be loving this relationship. All they have to is sit back and let Onesoccer do it all. Same could apply for CPL. You have to think these networks are looking to cut costs whenever possible and the Onesoccer product is solid masster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Trois Reds Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 22 hours ago, Trois Reds said: Looking at the tweet with both the Sportsnet and CPL logos next to each other, you might be right. Having the OneSoccer team interview Kyle Bekker and talk about the league on the Sunday Sportsnet pre-show makes me think there might be something to it as well. Well, I was wrong lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, Trois Reds said: Well, I was wrong lol They do seem to be pushing Fubo TV though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trois Reds Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, narduch said: They do seem to be pushing Fubo TV though. I guess that would be because Fubo has more than a million subscribers, whereas OneSoccer has, well, a lot fewer. Any way to get eyes on the league... narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Trois Reds said: I guess that would be because Fubo has more than a million subscribers, whereas OneSoccer has, well, a lot fewer. Any way to get eyes on the league... I'm going to sign up for their service when my One Soccer sub ends. They have Serie A and will have EPL now too. ray, toontownman and Trois Reds 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, narduch said: Further info on this. It will be a balance schedule. Same playoff format as last year. Except the 1st round is 2 legs. Edited February 3, 2022 by narduch ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tigers Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 I don't see the point in a two leg semifinal and then a single final. Surely if it requires two games to determine who is better out of 1v4, then it would need to be at least the same for the more-important final? ted and narduch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 One-off finals are just the way it is done for all cup competitions. If we lived in a more compact country I'd want to see semis in a neutral venue but this is a fine compromise. CDNFootballer, toontownman, Unnamed Trialist and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Tigers said: I don't see the point in a two leg semifinal and then a single final. Surely if it requires two games to determine who is better out of 1v4, then it would need to be at least the same for the more-important final? There's this soccer competition that uses 2 legs for the playoff rounds but then only a one game final. What's it called... what's it called? It's on the tip of my tongue. Oh right, it's called the UEFA Champions League. Anyone know if that competition does OK in terms of ratings and prestige? Cheeta, Stryker911, Ivan and 4 others 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Kent said: There's this soccer competition that uses 2 legs for the playoff rounds but then only a one game final. What's it called... what's it called? It's on the tip of my tongue. Oh right, it's called the UEFA Champions League. Anyone know if that competition does OK in terms of ratings and prestige? UEFA Cup used to be home and away. It is not that outlandish; if I recall correctly, the USL finals were also home and away. If you have a situation where away fans really are not going to travel in any numbers, by doing a home and away final you offer both sets of fans a chance. I am against it, as it creates unnecessary speculation in both matches, you never see a pure win or pure loss, it is always a calculator. That is also why, as a fan of a club in CL, that I really do not enjoy the group stage, and don't enjoy the home and away knockout rounds. A win is never just a win: I prefer league matches in fact. Or single-match finals. Finally: I don't get why folks here are so snide about the suggestion. @Kent you are comparing a league to CL when if you were being rigorous you'd say: no major league in the world does semis and a final. Laughing at CPL for doing playoffs makes more sense than laughing at the suggestion of a two-match final for a league. Edited February 5, 2022 by Unnamed Trialist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: UEFA Cup used to be home and away. It is not that outlandish; if I recall correctly, the USL finals were also home and away. If you have a situation where away fans really are not going to travel in any numbers, by doing a home and away final you offer both sets of fans a chance. I am against it, as it creates unnecessary speculation in both matches, you never see a pure win or pure loss, it is always a calculator. That is also why, as a fan of a club in CL, that I really do not enjoy the group stage, and don't enjoy the home and away knockout rounds. A win is never just a win: I prefer league matches in fact. Or single-match finals. Finally: I don't get why folks here are so snide about the suggestion. @Kent you are comparing a league to CL when if you were being rigorous you'd say: no major league in the world does semis and a final. Laughing at CPL for doing playoffs makes more sense than laughing at the suggestion of a two-match final for a league. To clarify, I am not against 2-leg finals. The CONCACAF Champions League has a 2-leg final (which is why I specified UEFA Champions League instead of just saying Champions League) and I am totally OK with that. It's just that the post I was responding to made it sound like this is some bizarre and unheard of format, so I was pointing out (I admit, flippantly) that there is precedent for this kind of format. I'm not an expert on the topic, but in terms of other leagues that use playoffs, it seems much of CONCACAF uses playoffs (MLS, Liga MX, and the Central American leagues). Apparently Colombia uses playoffs as well, as does Australia and some other countries as well. Likely none of those leagues meet your bar for "major" but it's not completely unique. It seems to work better for the CPL, and personally I am not against playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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