Gopherbashi Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 38 minutes ago, dbailey62 said: Hopefully a twofer. Stadium and team!https://globalnews.ca/news/3800718/surrey-pro-soccer-team-stadium/ "We're announcing that we're granting Surrey a franchise depending on their ability to find an appropriate stadium and work things out with the city." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) Never been clear why they haven't been granting provisional franchises starting with Halifax last summer. Suspect the protocol might be that it has to be announced through the CSA at an AGM in the same way as Hamilton and Winnipeg when they were admitted into membership of the national association. Edited February 5, 2018 by BringBackTheBlizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbeto Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 the commissioner said that the first teams would be announced at the end of February. Just wait Red and White and dbailey62 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 4 hours ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: Never been clear why they haven't been granting provisional franchises starting with Halifax last summer. Suspect the protocol might be that it has to be announced through the CSA at an AGM in the same way as Hamilton and Winnipeg when they were admitted into membership of the national association. Perhaps they have but why should they release that information to us if it is not written in stone. If a provisional club should drop out, that would be seen to be a black eye for the league. It makes much more sense to wait until member clubs are confirmed. BenFisk'sBiggestFan and Bbeto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Then you wind up with this in media stories: https://globalnews.ca/news/3800718/surrey-pro-soccer-team-stadium/ ...The league is aiming for a 2018 kickoff, but as of yet, just two teams have been confirmed: Hamilton and Winnipeg... when you could have something a lot more upbeat sounding. With provisional franchises you can raise the profile in the market in question by running name the team contests, taking deposits on season tickets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 22 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: Then you wind up with this in media stories: https://globalnews.ca/news/3800718/surrey-pro-soccer-team-stadium/ ...The league is aiming for a 2018 kickoff, but as of yet, just two teams have been confirmed: Hamilton and Winnipeg... when you could have something a lot more upbeat sounding. With provisional franchises you can raise the profile in the market in question by running name the team contests, taking deposits on season tickets... ... and as I said and I repeat, if one or two or three of those "provisional" clubs pull out for one reason or another, the league looks like its in decline before it has even started. How upbeat does that sound to you? Bbeto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) A couple of pages back you were confident they would have 8-10 for 2019. Now you think they are holding off on announcing cities provisionally because 2 or 3 might drop out. There doesn't seem to be a consistent train of thought involved in those two lines of argument. If the latter explains their reticence on making too many big announcements and ramping up front office activity in the propspective markets despite there only being 14 months to go to the stated launch date, and FC Edmonton and the Ottawa Fury are not sold on it, a 2019 launch is a long shot at best and they are still in search for investors mode. Edited February 5, 2018 by BringBackTheBlizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: A couple of pages back you were confident they would have 8-10 for 2019. Now you think they are holding off on announcing cities provisionally because 2 or 3 might drop out. There doesn't seem to be a consistent train of thought involved in those two lines of argument. If the latter explains their reticence on making too many big announcements and ramping up front office activity in the propspective markets, and FC Edmonton and the Ottawa Fury are not sold on it, a 2019 launch is a long shot at best and they are still in search for investors mode. "I think this will happen, but it's possible this other thing might happen" has nothing to do with consistency; it's about recognising that we don't have all the information, we can't predict the future, and it's wise to plan that things may not go according to plan. m-g-williams, Bbeto and Rintaran 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) You don't need that much information to know that: 2 teams confirmed limited number of stadium options in this country that could conceivably hold pro soccer games launch is 14 months away Edited February 5, 2018 by mpg_29 BringBackTheBlizzard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Guys, that article DBailey linked was from last October. Everyone take a knee before getting back into the same circular argume.....ah who am I kidding, go on then. LAK, Rheo and Macksam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAK Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 3 hours ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: ...a 2019 launch is a long shot at best and they are still in search for investors mode. What about a wager on a 2019 launch? Are you a gambling person? Cuz, I would love to bet that they do launch in 2019. What do you say? Are you in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: ...a 2019 launch is a long shot at best and they are still in search for investors mode. A long shot at best which is officially set to launch in 2019. That makes total fucking sense. Like fucking shit just stop with your interpretations when there are official press releases that say things like why do you do this? It fucking kills all your comments when you do this shit and is why people think you hate this fucking league Edited February 5, 2018 by matty Bbeto and dbailey62 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, matty said: A long shot at best which is officially set to launch in 2019.... You appear to have learned nothing from the "original six" episode and the PDF from Halifax. They've done remarkably well to push things along as far as they have with no MLS B team or ex-NASL involvement. Think some of you don't grasp how difficult it is to put together what they are trying to achieve. Edited February 5, 2018 by BringBackTheBlizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: You appear to have learned nothing from the "original six" episode and the PDF from Halifax. That was a leaked memo that was backed tracked on and also came from a single team. A leak like that and an official statement are very different things. If you didn't know that stop commenting. Edited February 5, 2018 by matty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) The statements about 2019 have had weasel words from what I have seen. They haven't been categorical about it. What they said: http://canpl.ca/article/david-clanachan-named-first-commissioner-of-cpl Canada’s highly anticipated professional men’s soccer league is set to debut in spring 2019. What they didn't say: Canada’s highly anticipated professional men’s soccer league will debut in spring 2019. Edited February 5, 2018 by BringBackTheBlizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: The statements about 2019 have had weasel words from what I have seen. They haven't been categorical about it. What they said: http://canpl.ca/article/david-clanachan-named-first-commissioner-of-cpl Canada’s highly anticipated professional men’s soccer league is set to debut in spring 2019. What they didn't say: Canada’s highly anticipated professional men’s soccer league will debut in spring 2019. IS SET TO means WILL. Look it up in basically every fucking dictionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Really? http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/to be set to do something to be likely to do something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 My god, we're literally arguing about semantics. ted, dyslexic nam, Ansem and 4 others 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: Really? http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/to be set to do something to be likely to do something https://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/british/set-to_1 - to start doing something in a determined or enthusiastic way https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/set-to - to begin actively and earnestly https://www.thefreedictionary.com/set+to - To begin working energetically; start in. I'm done you want to ignore shit go ahead. Barring a fuck up they're on the record Edited February 5, 2018 by matty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Gopherbashi said: My god, we're literally arguing about semantics. Yea I know this is peak dumbness here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 This is literally the dumbest fucking argument we've had for the last five pages. Rintaran, dbailey62, Ansem and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I remember Matty getting all upset on here about the "original six" amounting to a lie when the wording used there also had weasel words and wasn't in any way categorical. An ability to spot the weasel words in the press releases is fundamental to understanding what is actually happening. If they meant "will happen" they would have used that phraseology. "Set to" means something appears to be about to happen but doesn't imply that it categorically will happen. Junkie and Ansem 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: Really? http://dictionary.reverso.net/english-definition/to be set to do something to be likely to do something Huh, I'm surprised it doesn't say "to be a long shot at best to do something" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-g-williams Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Let's all just take a breather . . . We've been told that more announcements will be made very soon, so we'll all get the information we're craving soon enough. There's no need to get worked up over what should become much clearer in a couple of weeks. soccerlife, gator, toontownman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 21 minutes ago, Gopherbashi said: This is literally the dumbest fucking argument we've had for the last five pages. I literally agree and I'm sorry for my part in it. We are at a point where we've been told with great confidence by the league that 2019 Spring is when things are set to go off and the fact it's not seen as "ok they must be very very close to be using that sort of langage instead of the cautious wording they've used for years" is really fucking annoying and it's gets to me. I'm ready to just sit and wait (I think the fact I'm generally silent lately shows that a bit) and I don't get why we can't just do that now. I'm sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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