narduch Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Dortmund is involved in the Waterloo League 1 Ontario team. I wonder if they have further ambitions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Greatest Cockney Rip Off said: I really surprised this hasn’t been mentioned (unless I’ve missed it) but listening to the latest Footy Prime pod and they had the president of the Blizzard on as they’ve sign a partnership with Bayern Munich. Apparently part of the agreement is investment in facilities with the aim to get a club in the CPL. Here is the news story from Bayern Munich. https://fcbayern.com/en/news/2022/05/fc-bayern-and-toronto-blizzard-partnership So the current incarnation of the Blizzard are just women's youth teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianjc Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 If this Toronto Blizzard plan is to field a team in the CPL and NWSL, where would they play? Lamport Stadium Woodbine Stadium (where York United will be relocating to) Birchmont Stadium (East End of Toronto) As well would TFC allow another team with Toronto in its name to play in the CPL? narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 27 minutes ago, brianjc said: As well would TFC allow another team with Toronto in its name to play in the CPL? Don't think TFC can stop someone from doing that. Whether it be a success is another story Kent, CDNFootballer, johnyb and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Time Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 6 hours ago, narduch said: Dortmund is involved in the Waterloo League 1 Ontario team. I wonder if they have further ambitions Of course! Kitchener-Waterloo Octoberfest! narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Cockney Rip Off Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, brianjc said: If this Toronto Blizzard plan is to field a team in the CPL and NWSL, where would they play? Lamport Stadium Woodbine Stadium (where York United will be relocating to) Birchmont Stadium (East End of Toronto) As well would TFC allow another team with Toronto in its name to play in the CPL? TFC would have no say. The president said on the pod that they were looking for land around one of the major 400 series highways in Toronto but land is difficult to come by so they could look at York. I got the sense that this is all a little later down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 6/11/2022 at 11:25 AM, narduch said: Don't think TFC can stop someone from doing that. Whether it be a success is another story The only way they would be a success if CFG was to put a team there and pump money into the team. And with that to happen the CPL would have to alter there rules. In that state: Lamport would make a statement, and would need substantial upgrades. Birchmounts accessibility isn’t that great, but the lot has potential. Any development there would have to find/create a new space for all the throwball that is consistently played there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, Shway said: The only way they would be a success if CFG was to put a team there and pump money into the team. And with that to happen the CPL would have to alter there rules. In that state: Lamport would make a statement, and would need substantial upgrades. Birchmounts accessibility isn’t that great, but the lot has potential. Any development there would have to find/create a new space for all the throwball that is consistently played there. I wonder if you could put temp bleachers on the running track at Varsity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Kelowna has potential investors https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/372182/Canadian-Premier-League-franchise-kicking-tires-in-Kelowna Bbeto, Ivan, K Edgar and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 4 hours ago, narduch said: Kelowna has potential investors https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/372182/Canadian-Premier-League-franchise-kicking-tires-in-Kelowna Perfect location Mark my words.. sleeper success and number 1 away destination in the league johnyb, yothat2 and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Guess the curling club is in their sights to provide parking, which is lacking in that part of Kelowna: https://www.google.com/maps/@49.8976803,-119.4891368,1388m/data=!3m1!1e3 Paul Beirne was talking about Kelowna w/ Penticton as a target market during podcast interviews back around 2018 so may go way back. Personally think this is the sort of city they should be thinking about if they downscaled a bit with more of a regional bus league format in mind. Having Kelowna on board is a bit of a stretch if the goal is to be a soccer clone of the CFL. yothat2 and Ansem 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 6 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Guess the curling club is in their sights to provide parking, which is lacking in that part of Kelowna: https://www.google.com/maps/@49.8976803,-119.4891368,1388m/data=!3m1!1e3 Paul Beirne was talking about Kelowna w/ Penticton as a target market during podcast interviews back around 2018 so may go way back. Personally think this is the sort of city they should be thinking about if they downscaled a bit with more of a regional bus league format in mind. Having Kelowna on board is a bit of a stretch if the goal is to be a soccer clone of the CFL. Kelowna would be a great place to put a club. It's good they are not looking at the Crapple Bowl as a stadium. Not sure why Kelowna would be considered a bit of a stretch. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 53 minutes ago, Stanley said: Kelowna would be a great place to put a club. It's good they are not looking at the Crapple Bowl as a stadium. Not sure why Kelowna would be considered a bit of a stretch. Fastest growing region in Canada and lots of moola in the Okanagan Obinna, Stanley and ted 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlugan Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Guess the curling club is in their sights to provide parking, which is lacking in that part of Kelowna: https://www.google.com/maps/@49.8976803,-119.4891368,1388m/data=!3m1!1e3 Paul Beirne was talking about Kelowna w/ Penticton as a target market during podcast interviews back around 2018 so may go way back. Personally think this is the sort of city they should be thinking about if they downscaled a bit with more of a regional bus league format in mind. Having Kelowna on board is a bit of a stretch if the goal is to be a soccer clone of the CFL. Will you fuck off with your bus league bullshit. This is a rhetorical question btw. Cheeta, PegCityCam and red card 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Stanley said: Kelowna would be a great place to put a club. It's good they are not looking at the Crapple Bowl as a stadium. Not sure why Kelowna would be considered a bit of a stretch. Agree that Kelowna would probably do well compared to some of the teams in larger markets like York United and FCE right now. It's a metro area of 220,000 only when Penticton is factored in though, which isn't exactly next door, so not an easy fit for a big budget D1 type business model that emulates the CFL. Three out of eight currently play in huge CFL stadia but do you conceivably ever need 20,000+ seats once markets like Kelowna are involved? Never been fully clear what the end game is with CanPL. Doubt it adds much to what we already know but here's Northern Tribune's take: Although it's not stated the ownership group could be Dean Shillington and Rob Friend again given they are rumoured to hold territorial rights to all of BC. Edited June 19, 2022 by Ozzie_the_parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Agree that Kelowna would probably do well compared to some of the teams in larger markets like York United and FCE right now. It's a metro area of 220,000 only when Penticton is factored in though, which isn't exactly next door, so not an easy fit for a big budget D1 type business model that emulates the CFL. Three out of eight currently play in huge CFL stadia but do you conceivably ever need 20,000+ seats once markets like Kelowna are involved? Never been fully clear what the end game is with CanPL. Doubt it adds much to what we already know but here's Northern Tribune's take: Although it's not stated the ownership group could be Dean Shillington and Rob Friend again given they are rumoured to hold territorial rights to all of BC. Friend wasn't born in Kelowna but grew up there. The area could do with a proper stadium. I have no idea of that demographic would watch matches though. At least the airport is doing better and getting flights from more and more Canadian cities. toontownman and ted 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Friend wasn't born in Kelowna but grew up there. The area could do with a proper stadium. I have no idea of that demographic would watch matches though. At least the airport is doing better and getting flights from more and more Canadian cities. Could be a nice pull for the summer tourist crowd. Would sure be a beautiful setting. youllneverwalkalone and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SpursFlu Posted June 19, 2022 Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) Vernon is closer than Penticton so might as well consider that also. It's anecdotal but as someone who has lived in Kelowna it certainly seems true. They say the population of the Okanagan doubles in the summer. Schedule Cavalry, Edmonton, Saskatoon games in July and August and your likely to have some stadium takeovers There are 3 regional districts in the Okanagan and in 2019 it was around 400k. You could reasonably call that your target market. In the summer there are definitely a couple more 100k bumping around the area. Wish I was getting married all over again stag/footie match in Ktown would definitely be on the agenda Edited June 19, 2022 by SpursFlu Obinna and toontownman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 I live in Penticton. Go to Kelowna for everything, it might as well be next door, doesn't take long to get there....a lot quicker than heading from Vancouver to Langley in traffic. Obinna, johnyb, DoyleG and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 5 hours ago, SpursFlu said: Vernon is closer than Penticton so might as well consider that also. It's anecdotal but as someone who has lived in Kelowna it certainly seems true. They say the population of the Okanagan doubles in the summer. Schedule Cavalry, Edmonton, Saskatoon games in July and August and your likely to have some stadium takeovers There are 3 regional districts in the Okanagan and in 2019 it was around 400k. You could reasonably call that your target market. In the summer there are definitely a couple more 100k bumping around the area. Wish I was getting married all over again stag/footie match in Ktown would definitely be on the agenda Be careful what you wish for 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footscray Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) Yeah I'd say the season ticket population to draw from is 400k, there will be a couple hundred soccer hardcores from penticton, vernon, etc willing to do 14 home dates. walkup/casual base lopulation won't be 400k but will be increased by tourists if its in the right place. I think success will come down to stadium location. North end right in the middle of about 8 craft breweries and walkable from downtown and it will be busy if not packed in the summer with a bar feel. The amount of day to day foot traffic down there and ppl looking for something to do with all the tourists in summer is busier than any single spot I've see in much larger prairie cities outside of festival days. But I would be really surprised to see them get that spot, the ball diamonds can be moved cheaply but leveling the curling club would not land well in the broader community and would be a ton of money to replace. They should look at other options if it's just parking they are after and leave the curling club alone. a parkade, a lot a bit further away, etc. Would get way more traction. Edited June 21, 2022 by Footscray ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Given that Atletico Ottawa were announced in January 2020 and took part in the Island Games that took place in August 2020, What do you think the chances are of Toronto Blizzard joining next season? I mean, the Island Games were 8-9mths after Atletico Ottawa were announced and the 2023 season is a little over 11mths away. If Bayern were to put up the funds for a stadium or secure an existing one, it could be achievable, right? Sure, Atletico Ottawa had the stadium that Ottawa Fury had, but Bayern could sort something out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Cockney Rip Off Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, EnigMattic1 said: Given that Atletico Ottawa were announced in January 2020 and took part in the Island Games that took place in August 2020, What do you think the chances are of Toronto Blizzard joining next season? I mean, the Island Games were 8-9mths after Atletico Ottawa were announced and the 2023 season is a little over 11mths away. If Bayern were to put up the funds for a stadium or secure an existing one, it could be achievable, right? Sure, Atletico Ottawa had the stadium that Ottawa Fury had, but Bayern could sort something out. The sense I got from listening to the interview with the president of the buzzard is that joining the CPL is a long term goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigMattic1 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, Greatest Cockney Rip Off said: The sense I got from listening to the interview with the president of the buzzard is that joining the CPL is a long term goal. Yeah, it was also mentioned on the statement on Bayern's website wasn't it? Don't they also want a team in the Women's league too? You can't help but wonder though, Atletico Madrid go straight in to the CPL yet Dortmund rebrand Waterloo and Bayern take a team that, to my knowledge, aren't even in a league currently. Why? Do Dortmund and Bayern have a real long term plan or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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