Liam Millar

[Cheeta]

Bah.   No Hull on DAZN until September.

[spitfire]

3 hours ago, costarg said:

So is the plane emoji the direction he’s travelling from Basel? I woulda thought it’d be NW. 

plane emojis and only point one way

i think…lol

[ahmedou]

According to Google Maps: ''Hull is a laid-back area known for the Canadian Museum of History, also housing a children’s museum, and Jacques Cartier Park, which sprawls along the Ottawa River. The area’s emerging dining scene includes French bistros, relaxed brewpubs, and cozy cafes, while the Casino du Lac-Leamy features upscale restaurants, live entertainment, and gaming. Bridges with pedestrian and cycling paths cross the river to Ottawa.''

[Ed_S]

1 hour ago, ahmedou said:

According to Google Maps: ''Hull is a laid-back area known for the Canadian Museum of History, also housing a children’s museum, and Jacques Cartier Park, which sprawls along the Ottawa River. The area’s emerging dining scene includes French bistros, relaxed brewpubs, and cozy cafes, while the Casino du Lac-Leamy features upscale restaurants, live entertainment, and gaming. Bridges with pedestrian and cycling paths cross the river to Ottawa.''

Was also the scene of much late night carousing in my younger days 

[Unnamed Trialist]

5 minutes ago, Ed_S said:

Was also the scene of much late night carousing in my younger days 

Crossing the river because of the much looser liquor laws.

 

 

 

Edited August 8 by Unnamed Trialist

[Ed_S]

1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

Crossing the river because of the much looser liquor laws.

 

 

 

I wish I could confirm that I remember it well but the Chaudiere was an epic club (3 "clubs" actually) where the bouncers were tough, the servers surly, the lights low and a crazy night out in your early 20s

[Unnamed Trialist]

33 minutes ago, Ed_S said:

I wish I could confirm that I remember it well but the Chaudiere was an epic club (3 "clubs" actually) where the bouncers were tough, the servers surly, the lights low and a crazy night out in your early 20s

So what exactly was the period when you crossed the river because access to alcohol was that much easier, to the point of being a glaring difference and an almost obligatory outing? Think I experienced it from late 70s to early 80s. Or is it still the case?

This is a much more complex question than anything related to Liam's new contract, in case anyone decides to chirp in about being OT.

Edited August 8 by Unnamed Trialist

[Ed_S]

1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

So what exactly was the period when you crossed the river because access to alcohol was that much easier, to the point of being a glaring difference and an almost obligatory outing? Think I experienced it from late 70s to early 80s. Or is it still the case?

This is a much more complex question than anything related to Liam's new contract, in case anyone decides to chirp in about being OT.

Let's carry on through pms. Don't want to take away from the talk of one of our amazing young players on the rise. The Hull reference was just too hard for me to not jump in 

[The Real Marc]

Will be interesting to see how much of Hull’d good season was down to Rosenior vs results forthcoming from their new German coach

(Ado how long Rosenior lasts at Strabourg)

[ahmedou]

Liam Miller visiting the Cambridge United at Cambridge (Ontario)

[WestHamCanadianinOxford]

2 hours ago, The Real Marc said:

Will be interesting to see how much of Hull’d good season was down to Rosenior vs results forthcoming from their new German coach

(Ado how long Rosenior lasts at Strabourg)

It will be a very transitional year all round.

 

The attackers they used in the games I saw/paid close attention to are almost all gone.

Watford (H) 

Philogene - now at Villa; Delap - Ipswich; Twine - back at Burnley; Lokilo - Bulgaria 

Preston (H)

Zaroury - back at Burnley; Carvalho back at Liverpool; Philogene again

Watford (A)

Philogene; Carvalho; Tufan - gone to Turkiye

Preston (H)

Philogene; Zaroury; Carvalho 

 

Never more than 1 of 4 attacking players (ones I didn't mention) who is still at Watford this season.  Paid a little attention this summer as we were briefly linked with Philogene and the centre back Greaves who also went to Ipswich.

Be an clean slate there for Millar there; that's for sure.

But hopefully there permanently and can build with them.

Always wished them well since they gave us Bowen and even Snodgrass before that.

Edited August 8 by WestHamCanadianinOxford

[InglewoodJack]

 

[Obinna]

Glad to see the interest for many of our breakout Copa America stars is still there.

[TOcanadafan]

Listened to The Guardian podcast preview of the 3 tiers of EFL, and they referred to the new Hull manager’s style of play as “heart attack football”… sounds like it could be a perfect fit for Millar and really excited for his opportunity.

Edited August 9 by TOcanadafan

[Unnamed Trialist]

My personal view is it's only a slight shift up, and if they don't promote, it could be a plateau for his career. 

I realize he's leveraged the loan to Preston for a better salary at 3 more years, but that's not so much a football story. Couldn't he have aspired for a bit more? He's experienced enough and I believe has the talent to be playing in top flight. Then you have to ask: how is this going to challenge him to improve as a player any more than last year? Am I underestimating his team, teammates and the club's potential?

[Kadenge]

17 minutes ago, TOcanadafan said:

Listened to The Guardian podcast preview of the 3 tiers of EFL, and they referred to the new Hull manager’s style of play as “heart attack football”… sounds like it could be a perfect fit for Millar and really excited for his opportunity.

Millar is a good two way player though. I could see that approach suiting a player like Shaff or even Corbeanu.

[InglewoodJack]

14 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

My personal view is it's only a slight shift up, and if they don't promote, it could be a plateau for his career. 

I realize he's leveraged the loan to Preston for a better salary at 3 more years, but that's not so much a football story. Couldn't he have aspired for a bit more? He's experienced enough and I believe has the talent to be playing in top flight. Then you have to ask: how is this going to challenge him to improve as a player any more than last year? Am I underestimating his team, teammates and the club's potential?

Think it’s more that he’s a locked in starter who was one of the more exciting players in the championship last season vs. riding the bench at a bigger club and seeing his career stall. If he can improve on last season, he probably gets a move up to a good top tier somewhere.

[spitfire]

10 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

My personal view is it's only a slight shift up, and if they don't promote, it could be a plateau for his career. 

I realize he's leveraged the loan to Preston for a better salary at 3 more years, but that's not so much a football story. Couldn't he have aspired for a bit more? He's experienced enough and I believe has the talent to be playing in top flight. Then you have to ask: how is this going to challenge him to improve as a player any more than last year? Am I underestimating his team, teammates and the club's potential?

I have to disagree.. being on an ambitious driven champ team that is pushing for promotion is the right move. There were two options to be a squad player on a tier 1 team(there were options both in England, Spain and France) and maybe get enough playing time and hope it works out.( i know we have a few players like that ATM)

OR go be one of the top players in the Champ and either get promoted or be good enough to be picked up by a premier league team next season. Jaden Philojean (Aston Villa) and Jacob Greaves (Ipswich Town) both played for Hull last season and made big moves. The owner of HUll owns Fenebache and is very ambitious he fired Liam Rosenior for not getting top 6(they finished 7th) he hired a very good German manager and has backed him with signings and intent..

This decision wasn't taken lightly or in haste lots and lots of research and thought has gone into this..

not that its confirm yet..

[spitfire]

4 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said:

Think it’s more that he’s a locked in starter who was one of the more exciting players in the championship last season vs. riding the bench at a bigger club and seeing his career stall. If he can improve on last season, he probably gets a move up to a good top tier somewhere.

as i was writing just that

Hull still not official yet lol...

Edited August 9 by spitfire

[Obinna]

36 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

My personal view is it's only a slight shift up, and if they don't promote, it could be a plateau for his career. 

I realize he's leveraged the loan to Preston for a better salary at 3 more years, but that's not so much a football story. Couldn't he have aspired for a bit more? He's experienced enough and I believe has the talent to be playing in top flight. Then you have to ask: how is this going to challenge him to improve as a player any more than last year? Am I underestimating his team, teammates and the club's potential?

I have the same concerns, but let's see how the season plays out.

Like @InglewoodJack, the move theoretically makes sense. He goes to a club where (I assume) he should start and do damage, with plenty of minutes. Yes, the risk is that he could get stuck at this level, but the risk of going to a bigger club (whether that's high Championship/low EPL) was that he wouldn't play as much as he could elsewhere.

Whatever way you look at it, there was going to be risk. I think this risk is less bad, because the player will be playing and showcasing himself regardless. If they don't promote this seaosn but he does well, maybe this time next year he earns the type of transfer you think he should have gone for.

[spitfire]

i think you go where you feel you will play.. and back yourself and your talent.. and see where that gets you..

[Obinna]

2 minutes ago, spitfire said:

i think you go where you feel you will play.. and back yourself and your talent.. and see where that gets you..

I think ultimately that's the smartest approach. Hard to shine if you aren't on the field. 

[InglewoodJack]

22 minutes ago, Obinna said:

I have the same concerns, but let's see how the season plays out.

Like @InglewoodJack, the move theoretically makes sense. He goes to a club where (I assume) he should start and do damage, with plenty of minutes. Yes, the risk is that he could get stuck at this level, but the risk of going to a bigger club (whether that's high Championship/low EPL) was that he wouldn't play as much as he could elsewhere.

Whatever way you look at it, there was going to be risk. I think this risk is less bad, because the player will be playing and showcasing himself regardless. If they don't promote this seaosn but he does well, maybe this time next year he earns the type of transfer you think he should have gone for.

@spitfire mentioned he had some top div offers, maybe the playing time wasn’t guaranteed, so you’d have to think there will be similar offers for him next year if he puts up even better numbers, especially if Hull is a top team and he has the same sort of impact he has at Preston.

 

I also think the fact he was a Liverpool academy product is going to keep the premier league door open for longer than it typically would. 

[The Real Marc]

5 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said:

@spitfire mentioned he had some top div offers, maybe the playing time wasn’t guaranteed, so you’d have to think there will be similar offers for him next year if he puts up even better numbers, especially if Hull is a top team and he has the same sort of impact he has at Preston.

I also think the fact he was a Liverpool academy product is going to keep the premier league door open for longer than it typically would. 

This may be a masterstroke but it's just as much a meh move. Hull isn't a Leeds or Boro, it's another historically 2/3 tier club that's had a couple of sniffs at the Prem (as well as tier 4), purchased by an eccentric foreign owner that probably can't afford a team higher up the food chain. Firing Rosenior, however a flash in the pan he may be, and replacing him with the guy that couldn't get Hamburg promoted is not a great look.

I generally avoid threads where known family and friends are lurking, it's always a bit awk commenting from afar ... but three years on from leaving Liverpool he's exactly where we'd have expected him to have landed upon leaving Liverpool in the first place.

[WestHamCanadianinOxford]

1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

Then you have to ask: how is this going to challenge him to improve as a player any more than last year? Am I underestimating his team, teammates and the club's potential?

Your running down a Championship team/situation/supporters with little or no knowledge of it is one of the least surprising constants on this board.

It might be less reliable than death but it surely has overtaken taxes at this point in the "things you can count on" sweepstakes. 😉.