Ozzie_the_parrot Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 30 minutes ago, to70 said: Problem with him to Crvena Zvezda is who would pay his salary. Pretty sure that they would not pay(or afford) that kind of money for the position he plays. For as long as he's still under contract to Nottingham Forest and only on loan to them they might only have to pay part of it. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 10 hours ago, Obinna said: Would you say the same about Johnston at Celtic? If so you have an argument. Pretty much the same situation. Yup, I do say that about Celtic, PSG and Juve when they had like 8 cups in a row and no competition in Serie A. PSG will never win Champions League, Ligue 1 is too weak and does not offer enough challenge and competition to learn and sharpen themselves. Red Star dominates he Serbian league. Historically, one team gives them competition, and there is a a massive gap to the 3rd and 4th teams, and the rest are literally not even in the same league. Playing on a great team is only half of becoming a great player, playing vs great opponents is equally important. Opta has great stats for comparing leagues, Comparing Serbia to MLS is an eye openner. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 9 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Seriously? By far the most likely reason for Borjan's blunders are his goalkeeping abilities and not the league he plays in. As a goalkeeper if the centre forward is past the last defender and straight in on goal you inherently have a challenge on your hands regardless. The only angle you could perhaps point to is that as Red Star's goalkeeper the club is so dominant in that league that he's not called into action as often as he might be if he were playing for a smaller club. Doesn't stop goalkeepers from top clubs getting selected for their national teams though. Back in the day East Germany had their goalkeeper Jurgen Croy playing for his local club Sachsenring Zwickau rather than one of the top teams at the time like Dynamo Dresden so he stayed as sharp as possible. Difficult to do that once you have a free market system and freedom of contract. Sure, it doesn't stop them from playing for the national teams, but healthy competition is also really important. My thing with Borjan is... even at this best, he was never very focused and good for 1-2 blunders a game. Now if that comes down to his style and personality or just not being tuned up as well as some other pros we'll never know. But the point remains, Red Star have had it very easy the past decade while Borjan was there, the league was not very competitive. I'd prefer to see Laryea at Championship level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggietfc Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, narduch said: Serbian window closes today. I still think he ends up in MLS so he can still be loaned out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 (edited) 5 minutes ago, reggietfc said: so he can still be loaned out? Yes. Or sold. Not every league follows the main European transfer window MLS window is still open Edited February 16 by narduch Obinna, Buchta and reggietfc 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Just for added context, the transfer window for the incoming team is what matters. As an FYI the MLS window closes on April 23 (and the summer window is July 18 to August 14). I just don't understand why they are taking forever to settle this. Has he actually trained with NF at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchta Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 According to this article (google translate) he will not be going out on loan to Red Star Belgrade. Both clubs agreed to the loan, but it seems that terms could not be agreed with Laryea. Borjan recommended him to Red Star https://www.mozzartsport.com/fudbal/vesti/nista-od-dolaska-beka-zvezda-i-larjea-bez-dogovora/474698 johnyb, costarg, narduch and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 1 hour ago, narduch said: I just don't understand why they are taking forever to settle this. I guess this is why.... 52 minutes ago, Buchta said: it seems that terms could not be agreed with Laryea. narduch and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Sounds like Red Star would pick him up on loan, but probably were not willing to pay the full salary, just a part. As is usual in these cases. Remember Borjan was making half a million euros there, and Richie must be at least 50% higher than that at Forest. Probably, given the salary structures, going to the top of Serbia is not the right option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCa Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 (edited) In the starting XI Edited February 17 by MCa Weng and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 5 minutes ago, MCa said: In the starting XI Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 6 minutes ago, MCa said: In the starting XI Wait - what? narduch and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weng Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 6 minutes ago, MCa said: In the starting XI And according to Sofascore, it looks like he’ll start as a winger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 FotMob has Hudson-Odoi on the lineup (all sites agree on the other 4) but you are right - lots of places have him starting. Seems unlikely but…? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Starting for who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Holy shit its real. This is NF official site Match tracker: johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Just now, Ivan said: Starting for who? Forest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Just now, narduch said: Holy shit its real. This is NF official site Match tracker: I will reserve my excitement until it is visually confirmed. johnyb, Canuckia, Olympique_de_Marseille and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 1 minute ago, narduch said: Forest Wow. Livescore doesn't even have him in their 18! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Have a feeling this is fake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Just now, Ivan said: Wow. Livescore doesn't even have him in their 18! That is why I am holding off. The NF site could just glean content from a platform that specializes in match-tracking. And there is clear disagreement among those. It could be as simple as someone entering the wrong number into one platform. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Just now, narduch said: Have a feeling this is fake I just don’t see it happening. Going from the complete wilderness to starting 11? Seems unlikely. Canuckia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueseeka Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 A little excitement But no one he is starting for Forrest. I thought he was headed to Red Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 The other guy has also started 2 of their last 3 games, and scored twice. I am claiming a case of mistaken identity. God I hope I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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