Scott Arfield

[Floortom]

2 minutes ago, ESG Shawn said:

No mention of Eustaquio, a man running the midfield for a Champions League side?

Eustaquio is the straw that stirs the drink for us,  Arfield or not. 

While I do rate Arfield, Eustaquio is the superior player IMO and excluding him from a discussion about our CM strength is disingenuous. 

I didn’t mention Eustaqiuo because he’s the one guy I’m not worried about - seems pretty obvious.

[SthMelbRed]

9 hours ago, narduch said:

Not sure what the point of this would be.

Herdman will give a non answer answer

The apparent point would be to give one particular Herdman-obsessed internet weirdo a boner at the mere thought of JH feeling momentarily uncomfortable.

[ESG Shawn]

22 minutes ago, Floortom said:

I didn’t mention Eustaqiuo because he’s the one guy I’m not worried about - seems pretty obvious.

That's like saying "other than Davies, we are thin on the left side" 

[Cheeta]

27 minutes ago, SthMelbRed said:

The apparent point would be to give one particular Herdman-obsessed internet weirdo a boner at the mere thought of JH feeling momentarily uncomfortable.

Internet, weirdo, and boner.

Yup.  This the Voyageurs Forum.

[Floortom]

33 minutes ago, ESG Shawn said:

That's like saying "other than Davies, we are thin on the left side" 

No it really isn’t ...terrible comparison for pretty obvious reasons. 
 

[SpecialK]

I think fans deserve answers from Herdman and he should be held to some sort of accountability. 
 

if we are down by one goal vs Croatia and it’s the 65th min and we need a change to help get that goal. I would rather have Arfield come in that has  over 85 games played in English premier league, over 100 played in Championship and over 200 games in the Scottish Premier league  over Fraser, Kaye, Kone and Piette. 
 

If Herdman is too stupid not to beg Scott back - well we should be demanding answers. English, Italian, French etc fans would be demanding answer . What we are too star struck with herdman ? Oh we can’t upset big daddy herdman, he might leave us. 

Edited September 6, 2022 by SpecialK

[InglewoodJack]

What should the accountability be?

Also, French fans had to go a few years without that rat Benzema FWIW. They have a hundred times our depth, but if Arfield is our only omission due to non-form related issues, it’s not the end of the world. Still hope we somehow find a way to get him back though.

[EJsens1]

6 hours ago, SpecialK said:

I think fans deserve answers from Herdman and he should be held to some sort of accountability. 
 

if we are down by one goal vs Croatia and it’s the 65th min and we need a change to help get that goal. I would rather have Arfield come in that has  over 85 games played in English premier league, over 100 played in Championship and over 200 games in the Scottish Premier league  over Fraser, Kaye, Kone and Piette. 
 

If Herdman is too stupid not to beg Scott back - well we should be demanding answers. English, Italian, French etc fans would be demanding answer . What we are too star struck with herdman ? Oh we can’t upset big daddy herdman, he might leave us. 

I think you’re looking at this from the wrong pov. This is more a reflection of the media not asking. Herdman will give the same reply if they were to ask him at his next availability like what he said previously. Surely that’s pretty obvious to you? The time to really press was last January when he announced his retirement. I want Arfield back but unless there is some change/rumour, it’s a dead end. 

[dyslexic nam]

10 hours ago, SpecialK said:

I think fans deserve answers from Herdman and he should be held to some sort of accountability. 
 

if we are down by one goal vs Croatia and it’s the 65th min and we need a change to help get that goal. I would rather have Arfield come in that has  over 85 games played in English premier league, over 100 played in Championship and over 200 games in the Scottish Premier league  over Fraser, Kaye, Kone and Piette. 
 

If Herdman is too stupid not to beg Scott back - well we should be demanding answers. English, Italian, French etc fans would be demanding answer . What we are too star struck with herdman ? Oh we can’t upset big daddy herdman, he might leave us. 

All of this is predicated on the idea that Herdman drove him out - something I don’t think you have any evidence for whatsoever.  A player has announced his international retirement - why aren’t you proposing to hound him relentlessly with questions about his motives?   Or ambush Steven Gerard and force him to answer questions about whether or not he issued an ultimatum to Scotty.  That would seem to make more sense than some sort of campaign against Herdman where you think he needs to be held accountable (which assumes he is at fault).

You clearly don’t like the guy.  That is fine.  But even you have said that you would change your tone if he got us to the WC.  He has - and we qualified first in the region.  At this point, it seems pretty unreasonable to hold some sort of deep hostility towards him.  It is your prerogative to dislike him but don’t expect a lot of support for a witchhunt on the basis of some weird grudge.  

EDIT:

And to be clear, I wasn’t a fan of his at the outset.  I thought the hiring was weird, Zambrano was a good tactical coach who was ambushed, and the salesman approach wouldn’t do our squad justice. But at this point, the boys are bought in, the results have been fantastic, and I am wiling to give Herdman credit for doing something most of us saw as a huge long shot a couple of years ago.  

I still have some points where I am critical.  There have been instances where I don’t think he got our tactics right and was then somewhat slow to adjust.  And the Ted Talk approach can be a turn off for someone like me who doesn’t like quite that much sizzle.  But the guy has gotten results and done the one thing that past coaches have been unable to do for decades. 

Edited September 6, 2022 by dyslexic nam

[frmr]

10 hours ago, SpecialK said:

I think fans deserve answers from Herdman and he should be held to some sort of accountability. 
 

if we are down by one goal vs Croatia and it’s the 65th min and we need a change to help get that goal. I would rather have Arfield come in that has  over 85 games played in English premier league, over 100 played in Championship and over 200 games in the Scottish Premier league  over Fraser, Kaye, Kone and Piette. 
 

If Herdman is too stupid not to beg Scott back - well we should be demanding answers. English, Italian, French etc fans would be demanding answer . What we are too star struck with herdman ? Oh we can’t upset big daddy herdman, he might leave us. 

Herdman doesn't owe you shit, punk.

[Cheeta]

You know what would make this topic even more fun?  A showcase performance by the man tomorrow against Ajax.  Complete with stoppage time winner and a post match interview where Scotty, when questioned, admits that yes, he is interested in being part of the Canada side going to Qatar and would love hearing from Herdman.

Wouldn't that be fun!

I'll never wish a better day for a Ranger's player as I will for Arfield tomorrow. 

You know, just to be a prick.

 

 

[costarg]

12 hours ago, SpecialK said:

I think fans deserve answers from Herdman and he should be held to some sort of accountability. 
 

if we are down by one goal vs Croatia and it’s the 65th min and we need a change to help get that goal. I would rather have Arfield come in that has  over 85 games played in English premier league, over 100 played in Championship and over 200 games in the Scottish Premier league  over Fraser, Kaye, Kone and Piette. 
 

If Herdman is too stupid not to beg Scott back - well we should be demanding answers. English, Italian, French etc fans would be demanding answer . What we are too star struck with herdman ? Oh we can’t upset big daddy herdman, he might leave us. 

Give up dude.  It's cheap to just assume and blame Herdman.  What if it's Arfield's wife that doesn't want him travelling and away from the kids for weeks at a time?  Is that still Herdman's fault? 

Arfield might've wanted some flexibility considering his age, family and club situation.  Herdman probably said he couldn't really offer that cause it would set a precedence and bad message to the rest of the team.  Scott took a shot of whisky, John sipped his tea, they shook hands and parted.  It's unfortunate, maybe one day we'll have more details, but that's all we've got at the moment.  No point in pointing blame or making false accusations.  

But while we're on the subject, seriously, what's your real issue with Herdman?  His accent?  His height?  The fact that he came from the women's team?  Did he sleep with your Mom?  You've been at this for years, can you let it out please?  You need to talk about what is really bothering you, otherwise you'll never get over it.

[Kadenge]

1 hour ago, costarg said:

Give up dude.  It's cheap to just assume and blame Herdman.  What if it's Arfield's wife that doesn't want him travelling and away from the kids for weeks at a time?  Is that still Herdman's fault? 

Arfield might've wanted some flexibility considering his age, family and club situation.  Herdman probably said he couldn't really offer that cause it would set a precedence and bad message to the rest of the team.  Scott took a shot of whisky, John sipped his tea, they shook hands and parted.  It's unfortunate, maybe one day we'll have more details, but that's all we've got at the moment.  No point in pointing blame or making false accusations.  

But while we're on the subject, seriously, what's your real issue with Herdman?  His accent?  His height?  The fact that he came from the women's team?  Did he sleep with your Mom?  You've been at this for years, can you let it out please?  You need to talk about what is really bothering you, otherwise you'll never get over it.

Where's @Macksamwhen you need him? 

[Bison44]

I hear he is slaying it..while wearing gucci and some fancy watch.  

[Califax]

The fucking Scott Airfield thread.

(said like The Catalina Wine Mixer)

 

[Macksam]

13 hours ago, Kadenge said:

Where's @Macksamwhen you need him? 

@costarg's analysis is rather sound tbh. 

[canadianbacons]

Ajax up 3-0 in the first half against Rangers. Arfield on the bench. 

Edson Alvarez scored the first goal for Ajax. Americans Tillman and Sands started for Rangers.

[InglewoodJack]

Arfield the coward can't even see the pitch until it's a blowout when Rangers plays real opponents.

Edited September 7, 2022 by InglewoodJack

[Ansem]

41 minutes ago, canadianbacons said:

Americans Tillman and Sands started for Rangers.

And looked awful with Tillman pulled at half. So much for their superior backing 🤣

[Pottsy3]

1 hour ago, InglewoodJack said:

Arfield the coward can't even see the pitch until it's a blowout when Celtic plays real opponents.

Calling that blue team Celtic makes my blood boil

[InglewoodJack]

29 minutes ago, Pottsy3 said:

Calling that blue team Celtic makes my blood boil

I'm disgusted with myself. I have been up for 16 hours straight without even a coffee. Pathetic on my part. Pathetic on Arfield's as well.

[Obinna]

2 hours ago, Ansem said:

And looked awful with Tillman pulled at half. So much for their superior backing 🤣

Not too unhappy to hear Tillman struggled. Can't have too many American youngsters lighting it up (until we close the gap with them little more, at least).

[jordan]

23 minutes ago, Obinna said:

Not too unhappy to hear Tillman struggled. Can't have too many American youngsters lighting it up (until we close the gap with them little more, at least).

Tillman’s done well this year. 
 

Atleast Rangers can’t tie the record of getting pumped out of 3 European competitions in a year

[Obinna]

7 minutes ago, jordan said:

Tillman’s done well this year. 
 

Atleast Rangers can’t tie the record of getting pumped out of 3 European competitions in a year

I know. That is especially why a won't shed a tear for this poor performances 😈

[Ansem]

1 hour ago, Obinna said:

Not too unhappy to hear Tillman struggled. Can't have too many American youngsters lighting it up (until we close the gap with them little more, at least).

Thierry Henry had fun with Pulisic