InglewoodJack Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 3 minutes ago, Obinna said: Agreed. And moreover it feels this group still needs a bit of a technician. We have some many direct one-on-one guys, Hoilett would be a nice complement to that. He's also one of our few guys who've proved they can hang at the highest level. Scored some beauties in the premier league, and even recently, he scored and IIRC was our only offensive outlet versus Japan. Especially for Copa where there's probably a scenario where we can draw Peru and Chile and still advance, he's got as good a chance as anyone in our roster to score that late goal that gets us through. The more I think about it, the more I think he deserves a call. lowlander, Obinna, Corazon and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 On 5/12/2024 at 12:34 PM, toontownman said: But Biello already did the gone but not forgotten video montage for the squad? I'm feeling the montage was more of an explanation and preparation for the inevitable, not so much nailing the coffin. Vitoria is certainly done. Borjan is still top 5, maybe top 3 these days. Hoilett still has plenty to offer. Corazon and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 10 hours ago, Corazon said: But I also think Hoilett’s recent form is in large part to the quality of the league. Absolutely correct. Larin would also be doing some serious damage in SPL. It's tough to judge between someone not scoring but playing vs strong opponents in La Liga vs someone scoring at will in a lesser league. Alex and Corazon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig11rm Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 I seem to remember him having a good game against Celtic with Johnston defending him. Was it 2 assists? I would call him in. How many players would we be calling in that are 30+ years old? Him and Osorio? Obinna, PegCityCam and Corazon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 6 minutes ago, Craig11rm said: I seem to remember him having a good game against Celtic with Johnston defending him. Was it 2 assists? I would call him in. How many players would we be calling in that are 30+ years old? Him and Osorio? I was going to suggest that excluding Crepeau, the only other one is probably Piette, but dude is STILL remarkably in his 20s. Turns 30 on Nov 12th. Wild. He's been around forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 39 minutes ago, Craig11rm said: I seem to remember him having a good game against Celtic with Johnston defending him. Was it 2 assists? I would call him in. How many players would we be calling in that are 30+ years old? Him and Osorio? Do we call Choiniere over Osorio? I think it’s due time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 8 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: Do we call Choiniere over Osorio? I think it’s due time. I don't really see them as battling for the same role. I mean, they are both number 8s, and both can create plays, but they are kind of different profiles. Personally, I think Choniere should be included regardless of what's going on with Osorio, dependent on form, of course. Osorio and Hoilett I think should be competing for the same role, as that tempo setting CM. Choniere and Ahmed are more like the all-action/jack-of-all-trades type of CMs, and as of today I want both in our selection... CM: Eustaquio, Kone, Ahmed, Choniere, Osorio/Hoilett, Piette/Fraser/Paton? Corazon and Craig11rm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 29 minutes ago, Obinna said: I don't really see them as battling for the same role. I mean, they are both number 8s, and both can create plays, but they are kind of different profiles. Personally, I think Choniere should be included regardless of what's going on with Osorio, dependent on form, of course. Osorio and Hoilett I think should be competing for the same role, as that tempo setting CM. Choniere and Ahmed are more like the all-action/jack-of-all-trades type of CMs, and as of today I want both in our selection... CM: Eustaquio, Kone, Ahmed, Choniere, Osorio/Hoilett, Piette/Fraser/Paton? I struggle with this because I think Junior brings real maturity and experience and killer balls. I think because of the compactness of what Marsch wants to do we will have 3/4 midfielders no matter how we line up otherwise. And we just plain need bodies. But... The advanced midfielder(s) will have to be part of the press (the others can can sometimes be rest defence sometimes but that's even less Junior). Is he able and willing? Same with Osorio. He is one the intelligent players that Marsch talks about. Corazon and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 6 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: I struggle with this because I think Junior brings real maturity and experience and killer balls. I think because of the compactness of what Marsch wants to do we will have 3/4 midfielders no matter how we line up otherwise. And we just plain need bodies. But... The advanced midfielder(s) will have to be part of the press (the others can can sometimes be rest defence sometimes but that's even less Junior). Is he able and willing? Same with Osorio. He is one the intelligent players that Marsch talks about. I have the same questions. Maybe in that position there's less gound to cover, versus out on the wing where there is more space to cover, and where Davies, Buchanan, and the like will be doing their pressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Just now, Obinna said: I have the same questions. Maybe in that position there's less gound to cover, versus out on the wing where there is more space to cover, and where Davies, Buchanan, and the like will be doing their pressing. If he goes with the formation he did at Leeds, that was usually Aaronson's position and pressing was his biggest (sometimes only?) strength. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 2 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: If he goes with the formation he did at Leeds, that was usually Aaronson's position and pressing was his biggest (sometimes only?) strength. Yeah if he's looking for an Aaronson substitute it's not going to be Hoilett. Choniere on the other hand.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 1 minute ago, Obinna said: Yeah if he's looking for an Aaronson substitute it's not going to be Hoilett. Choniere on the other hand.... It's again interesting because you can't really cookie cutter any of our guys into the Leeds roles he used, once he had his guys. Adams and Roca as 6s and Aaronson as the 10. Adams with a little bit of freedom do other things and Aaron did rotate with the other attackers but clearly defined roles. Eustaquio can do all of those roles well and will keep running but he's not a physical 6. Kone is going to have to buy in; Marsch's teams are not set up for wonder runs and goals. Choinere benefits but where exactly. Piette works if he is fast enough. Ahmed is quick but is his best trait his trickiness, carrying the ball rather than pass and move. But again, I am reminded he used 3 at the back when had a number of good centrebacks at Leipzig and he would only use one 6 when facing lower league teams in England. So maybe he adjusts this. Corazon and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Yesterday’s highlights, could have scored early on, and the dead ball delivery quite good. Doing well where games still matter with prize money/relegtion playoffs on the line. https://youtu.be/HXeL88ZhNYs?si=EpttJP90SEboAIcg Corazon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted May 16 Share Posted May 16 Copa squads have been confirmed today they will be 26 players. I think that means there is room to take Hoilett. cronaldo7, TGAA_Star, Shway and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 18 hours ago, narduch said: Copa squads have been confirmed today they will be 26 players. I think that means there is room to take Hoilett. Hoilett is a veteran with loads of experience and we need that within out side cronaldo7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 8 hours ago, TGAA_Star said: Hoilett is a veteran with loads of experience and we need that within out side Yes, he's got all that, but more importantly, he's also a killer knack for attacking. Corazon and TGAA_Star 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegCityCam Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 Got another assist yesterday vs Loturi's Ross County in a 2-2 draw. That's 8 assists in 14 matches and good enough for top 10 in the league. Also finished second on the squad in chances created with 31 and 3.4 per 90 which is ridiculous. Here's the assist (and a missed pen by Bair unfortunately): Aberdeen supporters with a resounding "One more year..." serenade for our man: Corazon and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 13 minutes ago, PegCityCam said: Got another assist yesterday vs Loturi's Ross County in a 2-2 draw. That's 8 assists in 14 matches and good enough for top 10 in the league. Also finished second on the squad in chances created with 31 and 3.4 per 90 which is ridiculous. Here's the assist (and a missed pen by Bair unfortunately): Aberdeen supporters with a resounding "One more year..." serenade for our man: He’s obviously left a strong impression in just 3 months of playing for the club. He’s easily on my roster for Copa America despite being “old age”. johnyb, Stryker911, narduch and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Approve My Account Pls Posted May 20 Share Posted May 20 6 hours ago, PegCityCam said: Aberdeen supporters with a resounding "One more year..." serenade for our man: He deserves that chant from us after his recent run of form... deserves to come off the bench in Copa IMO kacbru, PegCityCam and Corazon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Poor Hoilett, he's been so injury prone. johnyb, Mattd97, NVsoccer and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 That is too bad for JH as I believe he deserved the call up and may have been a useful player off the bench, replacing him with a CB makes sense as we are thin there! JAVIERF, Unnamed Trialist, toontownman and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 26 minutes ago, gator said: That is too bad for JH as I believe he deserved the call up and may have been a useful player off the bench, replacing him with a CB makes sense as we are thin there! Waterman has been playing well recently too. jhoops__, Aird25, costarg and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Damn that sucks for Junior. Hopefully just precautionary given his contract status and nothing that will affect him. Delicate time for him for sure. Waterman seems a good replacement. A little surprising that he went from starting in March to dropped completely. JAVIERF and costarg 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Unfortunate that he picked up that injury in training but we should have just replaced him with another attacking player. Why replace him with Waterman though? JAVIERF 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 The sad part is that we never got Jnr when he was at his best playing for Blackburn. NVsoccer, GasPed, TGAA_Star and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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