piltdownman Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 It was the BBC. I remeber Hackett was applying the letter of the law. Something about flip throws themselves not being illegal, if if the ball touched the ground during the flip it was illegal. Meaning you couldn't do one of the like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltdownman Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Question from rocknotthe A player taking a throw in runs up to the line and does a forward flip, landing on both feet behind the line and throws the ball a long distance from behind the head and releases it correctly. The defenders stop and complain to the ref and attacking team score. What action does the ref take? Keith Hackett's answer This is not in the spirit of the game and I would treat this as unsporting behaviour and caution the player. Question from BluestarMagic Also found this addition in the laws so the flip throw would have to be that, a flip, and not a handstand type flip throw that Steve Watson used to do for Villa and Newcastle: "If the ball touches the ground before entering the field of play, the throw-in shall be retaken by the same team from the same position provided that it was taken in line with the correct procedure. If the throw-in is not taken in line with the correct procedure, it shall be retaken by the opposing team." Keith Hackett's answer The law states that he cannot kneel down or even sit down to take a throw in. I would therefore NOT ALLOW the thrower who does a handstand-type flip throw. This for me is a trick to gain an unfair advantage. Follow-up question from benwlister This sort of 'flip' throw happens quite regularly in high-school soccer in the USA, very effectively in some cases, and is perfectly legal. Keith Hackett's answer Well, I will make contact with someone I know in America and come back to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squizz1402635577 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 quote:Originally posted by piltdownman Question from BluestarMagic Also found this addition in the laws so the flip throw would have to be that, a flip, and not a handstand type flip throw that Steve Watson used to do for Villa and Newcastle: "If the ball touches the ground before entering the field of play, the throw-in shall be retaken by the same team from the same position provided that it was taken in line with the correct procedure. If the throw-in is not taken in line with the correct procedure, it shall be retaken by the opposing team." Keith Hackett's answer The law states that he cannot kneel down or even sit down to take a throw in. I would therefore NOT ALLOW the thrower who does a handstand-type flip throw. This for me is a trick to gain an unfair advantage. What are these people referring to? None of this is in the actual FIFA Laws of the Game. READ the FIFA Laws of the Game -- flip throws are legal, period. Anyone who says otherwise is inventing rules or is just stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Page 127 of the 2008-09 Fifa Laws of the Game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squizz1402635577 Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Yikes, well, if you check the time stamp on that last post of mine - hmm, it wasn't my finest hour. Evidently I should take my own advice and read the Laws all the way to the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 quote:Originally posted by squizz Yikes, well, if you check the time stamp on that last post of mine - hmm, it wasn't my finest hour. Evidently I should take my own advice and read the Laws all the way to the end. ... the description .. is wrong .. it misses one salient point.. If the ball touches the ground ( and after being released by the thrower ) before entering the field of play, the throw-in shall be retaken by the same team from the same position provided that it was taken in line with the correct procedure. If the throw-in is not taken in line with the correct procedure, it shall be retaken by the opposing team. This statement simply says you cant bounce the ball into play it must leave hands and go into play directly.... the brit ref is wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Thinking outside the box - Cantona. Speaks French too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Ault Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Trillium This statement simply says you cant bounce the ball into play it must leave hands and go into play directly.... the brit ref is wrong... Trillium you know better the refs are never wrong.... besides even when they are they call it an interpretation.....[)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Ault Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Trillium This statement simply says you cant bounce the ball into play it must leave hands and go into play directly.... the brit ref is wrong... Trillium you know better the refs are never wrong.... besides even when they are they call it an interpretation.....[)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 As far as I know, flips throw-ins are still legal. I have not heard or seen any specific rulings about them. The latest policies I have seen relate to lightning and players wearing casts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 this thread degenerated a bit but, to try to get it back on track, it looks like the CSA will start evaluating applications tomorrow at meetings in Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 15, 2008 Share Posted October 15, 2008 If it's the same people following the same process they used last year on the men's side, someone should stop them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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